Paulvti Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 A better engine would be a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB3Matt Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Cheers sleeper, that article was a cracking read. I'm just trying to locate a cheap 4-1 mani now. found cheap 4-2-1 on ebay, but not 4-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Cheers sleeper, that article was a cracking read. I'm just trying to locate a cheap 4-1 mani now. found cheap 4-2-1 on ebay, but not 4-1 You could also pick up a T3/4 Turbo mani and get a system built with that patern.. Then if you ever went Turbo it would be a simple transition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB3Matt Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 way outta my price range. I'll be saving a job like that for an MB6! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 way outta my price range. I'll be saving a job like that for an MB6!What engine is in the MB3 then?? 1.5 16v? Could find a VTEC head and build a minime?? Minime Turbo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmZvr Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Cheers sleeper, that article was a cracking read. I'm just trying to locate a cheap 4-1 mani now. found cheap 4-2-1 on ebay, but not 4-1 Why do you insist on 4-1 ? If you're after a cheap one it won't matter anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Why do you insist on 4-1 ? If you're after a cheap one it won't matter anyway.I think he's after Lower and Mid range power; ...There are two different designs for a header. The 4-2-1 (or Tri-Y) and the 4-1. It is said that the 4-1 costs you low-end torque to give you more power up top. However, if you follow this link http://www.automotiveperforman....html you will see that some 4-1's have better low and mid then the 4-2-1.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Cheers sleeper, that article was a cracking read. I'm just trying to locate a cheap 4-1 mani now. found cheap 4-2-1 on ebay, but not 4-1 BTW check your DM's Matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmZvr Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Cheap ebay headers are just copies of branded headers with no calculations done at all, so 4-1 or 4-2-1 it really doesn't matter. Saying that 4-1 is better than 4-2-1 is like saying blue cars are better than red. If we are talking about the same brand then maybe but almost every D series header has only one design. Actually I can't think of a brand that has 4-1 and 4-2-1 header for d-series. You can't say for example that the Comptech header 4-2-1 has worse lower and mid range power than any other brand 4-1 ? There are well designed headers and not-so well designed, that's it. This is just my opinion. I will be happy to be proven otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB3Matt Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It'll be cheap crap I get for this car. So will go for a 4-2-1 if I decide to change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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