need help on shocks + springs setup; no lowering

[matanmaster]

Hi!

 

I own MC2 civic and I'm going to completely rebuild my suspension (it almost weared down). Here, in Russia, we don't have experience of going to MG ZS parts, so I was thinking towards Koni Sport shocks + OEM springs setup (I know Eibach springs are by far superior, but they will bring car too low for our Winter season / bad roads places). Yesterday I had found this forum and read a lot about your MG ZS parts setups and started to think that Koni+OEM is my mistake. The problem is that I already ordered Koni Sports(Yellow) shocks so I cannot change this part of setup.

Now I'm thinking of getting MG ZS 180 springs in pair with Koni Sport shocks. Will it work good? How much MG ZS springs are lower than OEM ones? Is there any other option?

 

 

 

 

P.S. Does rear MG SZ ARB requires any subframe improvements? And how does this ARB influence on comfort?

[KiNK43]

I think the mg springs lower about 15 mm .

The arb is direct bolt on. It doesn't mount to the sub frame no it doesn't require reinforcement.

[NIKH25]

The MG springs won't make it any lower, the shocks are shorter which is what drops it. I wouldn't use the mgzs springs with the koni shocks, they are the wrong spring rates for these cars and will not be matched to the shocks.

 

Either stick with your original springs or get some koni ones to match the shocks.

 

As above the arb is a direct bolt up, it doesn't make any difference to comfort it stiffens up the rear to stop body roll.

[matanmaster]

  On 1/10/2014 at 5:52 PM, KiNK43 said:

It doesn't mount to the sub frame no it doesn't require reinforcement.

 

How it can be? ARB always mounts on subframe with it central part and to LCA's with it ends.

 

 

  On 1/10/2014 at 7:36 PM, NIKH25 said:

The MG springs won't make it any lower, the shocks are shorter which is what drops it. I wouldn't use the mgzs springs with the koni shocks, they are the wrong spring rates for these cars and will not be matched to the shocks.

 

Either stick with your original springs or get some koni ones to match the shocks.

 

As above the arb is a direct bolt up, it doesn't make any difference to comfort it stiffens up the rear to stop body roll.

 

But if springs are designed to work with shorter shocks will they work with -20mm koni's? Koni shocks are adjustable in that way(0/-20mm)

And so the are adjustable in stiffness. That's why I'm looking for stronger springs (but could not find any aftermarker without less than -35mm lowering).

[NIKH25]

  On 1/11/2014 at 8:01 AM, matanmaster said:

How it can be? ARB always mounts on subframe with it central part and to LCA's with it ends.

 

 

 

But if springs are designed to work with shorter shocks will they work with -20mm koni's? Koni shocks are adjustable in that way(0/-20mm)

And so the are adjustable in stiffness. That's why I'm looking for stronger springs (but could not find any aftermarker without less than -35mm lowering).

 

That's true I suppose, the only way to find out for sure is to try it, that's probably not what you wanted to hear though.

 

It may be worth using your original springs and see how they cope.

[matanmaster]

  On 1/11/2014 at 10:32 AM, NIKH25 said:

That's true I suppose, the only way to find out for sure is to try it, that's probably not what you wanted to hear though.

 

It may be worth using your original springs and see how they cope.

 

 

The problem is that my original springs are soft MB8 springs(I swapped b18c4 into my car + some other stuff to make it MC2 like) that 100% are no good there. So I have to buy either VTI springs or MG ZS. That's why I asked here.

[NIKH25]

  On 1/14/2014 at 7:38 PM, matanmaster said:

The problem is that my original springs are soft MB8 springs(I swapped b18c4 into my car + some other stuff to make it MC2 like) that 100% are no good there. So I have to buy either VTI springs or MG ZS. That's why I asked here.

 

Ah right, I think if I was you I'd go for MC2 springs then.