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The result are in, and it was very close racing!

 
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Lucio finish the day 3rd in the SCCA STR class the fastest time of 53.244, only 0.012 second behind 2nd place!
The first 3 place in the class was separated by less than 0.2 seconds... 
 
Lucio time also made him the fastest S2000 of the day, with a 13th overall in raw time.
Pretty respectable considering he is only 6.5 seconds behind the 1st place, and that was a fully prep Racing Go-Kart.  :)
 
Another interesting thing was we had 2 driver that day using the same car.
Lucio was number 14 who finish 3rd, and Landon who was number 114 and finished 4th.
It was interesting to see as both driver have different preference, so both found the best suspension setting that suit their driving style.
They also tired out each other suspension setting to give a comparison but it was Lucio who was just a little faster in the end.
The next car down is almost 2 seconds behind, so the front runner are fast compare to the rest of the group.
 
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Objective Result
 
As Auto Solo track layout changes at every event, it is difficult to compare raw track time.
The best way to compare is to use average time between driver who attended both event, so that is what we will do.
 
In SCCA, each time you hit a cone you add 2 seconds penalty to your total time.
Lucio time in round 7 was 55.297 after a 4 second penalty, so his raw track time was 51.297 which would of place him in 3rd place in the STR class.
We will use the raw time for comparison.  
 
Round 7 (raw time 51.297)
STR class average: 53.76 (beat average by 2.46 seconds).
Total average: 56.65 (beat average by 5.35 seconds).
 
Round 8 (raw time 53.244)
STR class average: 55.90 (beat average by 2.65 seconds).
Total average: 58.93 (beat average by 5.68 seconds).
 
Difference between round 7 and round 8
STR class average: 0.19 seconds improvement 
Total Average: 0.33 seconds improvement
 
So all in all, an improvement but wasn’t catastrophic.
The biggest difference was getting 3 clean runs in round 8 vs no clean run in round 7.
 
The clean run make a huge difference to the final result.
Lucio was ranked 13th overall in round 8, but ranked 65th overall in round 7 just to show the difference.
 
 
Subjective Feedback 
 
Getting feedback from Lucio after the end of the day, here is what he have to say:
 
The car was tested on the street and the 90% of the set up was clean, the remaining 10% set up are based on driver preference.
It was cool to see how Landon and I were able to select different set up to suit our driving preference on the same car, and really show how much difference a few clicks on the damper made to the overall dynamic.
 
My driving is pretty aggressive and I was able to maintain the car ON the track with just one penalty on the first run Vs the previous race where I was not able to obtain a clean run in the all day.
 
Adjusting the suspension to a softer setting for the 45 minute drive home was also impressive.
I was not used to have a comfortable feeling in this car and at one point I visually checked the tire's pressure to see if everything was fine.
The best proof was my 16 years old daughter in the passenger seat who does not have a lot of experience in sport car felt comfortable enough to take a nap during the driving home.
 
Overall, it has been a big improvement and I am please with the result.
 
 
Conclusion
 
So that is it, an improvement but not a huge amount as expected.
Auto-Solo only give about 60 seconds worth of track time and speed aren’t fast, so a lot of importance are place on the tyres and how much traction it can generate.
 
The S2000 never made it out of second gear on the day, and this type of tight track favour the lighter MX5 / Miata.
To be able to keep up with cars that is 500lbs lighter is quite an impressive achievement given the fact that there aren’t enough “straight” to allow the S2000 to use it’s upper power band.
 
I hope this was an interesting read, and we certainly enjoy the experience working with the driver.
3rd place finish aren’t back, but we will hope to see 1st place in the future.  :)
 
Jerrick
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Very interesting read! 8-)

 

Glad he's enjoying the suspension, seems impressed with the two characteristics the Meister's offer, hardcore for abusing on track and comfortable for cruising!  

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Very interesting read! 8-)

 

Glad he's enjoying the suspension, seems impressed with the two characteristics the Meister's offer, hardcore for abusing on track and comfortable for cruising!  

 

That was always the focus of the MeisterR Zeta-S / Zeta-R coilovers.

Fast road usage with occasional track days. :)

 

Just in USA, the fast road is straight, and there aren't many tracks.  :(

But compliancy is needed because the "joint" on the freeway can be salvage at 70mph.

1 hour of that on rock hard suspensions will be painful.

 

Jerrick

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Great read Jerrick, and great result! I'm never done recommending MeisterR suspension to people I know are looking for a suspension upgrade, but are unsure what to go for. Having had a set on my MB6, then another set for the aerodeck, I simply can't fault them.

At the last Civic5 meet (St Marys loch, Scotland) I found due to the road we drove on during the run being a single track, really uneven one, the car was grounding a fair bit. First stop for photoshoot, and I adjusted the stiffness (2 min job) to a stiffer setting all round, and this cured the bottoming out. Enjoyed the rest of the run immensly! So great design being able to adjust things even when you're out and about, and most comfortable ride I've had in a car fitted with coilovers.

 

As Tina turner once said....."simply the best!"

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  • 2 months later...

Just read this and im literally bouncing off the walls hoping my meisters come today! Currently got some ebay specials off an EK so basically the worlds most uncomfortable, unstable and most dangerous ride ever soo yeah hopefully will feel a difference ;)

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Just read this and im literally bouncing off the walls hoping my meisters come today! Currently got some ebay specials off an EK so basically the worlds most uncomfortable, unstable and most dangerous ride ever soo yeah hopefully will feel a difference ;)

It'll be like night and day! 8-)

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