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Here's what greeted us!
passenger side shows how it should be sitting.......
Whole mount is sitting way too high, and deffo not right. Noticed they'd also put paint on all the bolts this time, I suspect so they know if it's been removed to be inspected. Decided not to use the car and took it to East Coast, a MINI specialist. They showed that the rubber mount wass taking the whole weight of the car (when car went up on ramp, the mount dropped right down!). They then took videos/pictures of dismantling it and removing the strut from car. This showed the following:
Spring not seated correctly at top or bottom cups
Grease cup missing from top mount (they had fitted a cheap sealed bearing mount whereas the BMW Mini part has a seperate cup).
Mount is so weak you can push the rubber up with your hands.
They concluded that parts have been fitted wrong (spring), and that a very cheap aftermarket mount has been used which is different from standard spec.
They have now fitted yet another top mount bearing (from BMW Mini) and bought a replacement grease cup (again from BMW Mini) and have rebuilt the strut. Spring is properly located this time and mount looks like it did when she left the factory.
They concluded that the mount they fitted, and the fact the spring wasn't located properly, would have failed very soon.
Getting the shoddy work done by the little A-holes at ATS rectified has cost me a further £192.
We are now in the process of getting an email drafted with our findings and photos etc and will be sending it to ATS HQ. We will be giving them the option to refund all costs incurred from them and also the cost incurred getting it fixed to compensate for the time we were left without the car. If they don't play ball, we're taking them to court. Absolutely disgusting company to deal with from start to finish.
Just glad to get the car back on the road and in a safe condition to drive. Hats off to East Coast who have been brilliant throughout this whole thing.
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So update time again. Caqlled the garage and spoke to Luke, the so called manager. Had to get Poppy trailered to the garage (ATS in Galashiels, STAY CLEAR OF THEM!) which Luke said I would have to pay for it they found their part had failed because of another part on the car. Could see right away what was coming, they were already building up their excuses, and the attitude on the phone was shocking to say the least.
Car got picked up, but I took photos of the strut prior to it going and spring etc looked fine. They called back later that day and said broken spring which had caused their top mount to fail. So I was liable for the cost of a new spring, another new top mount and the cost of the recovery truck. Told him I was not happy and asked for either the email address for complaints or the number for ATS complaints dept to which he replied "Don't know what it is, google it yourself"! Finally emailed them and when I got no response, I called. Got soe gormless twat on the phone who said "oh yeah, can see that came in on Monday (this was now wednesday) but it's not been dealt with". Their way of dealing with things seems to be they email the garage concerned, then they stand by whatever the garage emails back.
End result is they wouldn't budge, but offered to replace their failed part at no cost (which to me admits their part was shit in the first place!). Had to agree and we've paid for the repair and the recovery truck. They then had the car for 3 and a half weeks! Kept fobbing me off on the phone, Luke being a tosser basically. Finally Gayle called and said she wanted an exact day it would be ready and not a "maybe" day. Went to collect it and the tossers had left the pass window down by about a cm, to let the pouring rain in and soak the floor/ carpet. Drove it home, totally raging, and popped the bonnet. OMG!
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On 9/11/2022 at 3:43 PM, KiNK43 said:
Blimey that could have been nasty as ya say. With load on it cornering etc. Nightmare. What's it made from?
Swiss cheese by the look of it mate!
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Loving watching the build on this Jake, I wouldn't have the confidence/knowhow myself to take an engine down to the bare block and build it up again bit do love watching it happen. Hats off to you mate and keep up the amazing work!
Any idea when it will be back in the car. Be interested to see what the differences are driving wise/any gains over previous build. Deffo my fav VTiS, such a stunner of a car in every way.
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On 10/21/2022 at 8:36 AM, dr_broon said:
Must admit I was wondering about that... I'd be getting proper grief ("I thought you said it wouldn't be long!")
LOL I wouldn't have even got it past the door!! Be like "and where'd you think you're going with that? Garage is over there!
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Just wondering if you could maybe clean them up/treat the rust then cover the inside of the lense with that tin foil tape (not sure what its called)? That way it would still be reflective?
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How's the mods with the deck going mate @Mickg
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On 10/1/2022 at 2:59 PM, dr_broon said:
So just took the old injector to a place that services/tests/cleans them that was recommended so I can have a spare (that might need to be fitted sooner rather than later as another one seems to be on the way).
Turns out I know the fella there's, so we were having a catch up. He was saying that they're having loads of honda injectors through... Like loads every week! He was showing me some photos of what happens - there's a plastic filter in the injector mounted from the top, and the new fuel makes it disintegrate, so all the plastic and bits of crap end up blocking the injector.
He was also showing me some results of a set he'd tested this week - there was a misfire on one cylinder, but when they tested the injectors only one was okay, and the rest were all about the same level of poor performance.
When they repair them they use stainless filters so should be much better.
Bad crack this E10
Its bad crack that they are getting away with actually selling this pathetic excuse for fuel! E10 is utter crap. Destroys rubber fuel lines, damages injectors...........no wonder the gov is loving it. They get older cars off the road (so helps them meet their totally unrealistic emmisions limits), they get tax on all the cars going in for repair. Win win for them as usual and all part of the plan to force us into EV's. The refurbed injectors with the stainless steel filter sound good though.
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Ahh, damned rust! Did you manage to get the paintwork on the roof sorted after the bike rack incident? Surprised the arches have started to rust though. Is a lovely looking car and stunning cars inside these!
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jeese, how much are the injectors mate? Do you need to buy a complete rail?
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And the drama continues with Poppy! Only two weeks after getting her new O/S top strut mount replaced, the brand new one went last night with a catastrophic failure! Luckily it was as we just pulled out of our drive, so just drove her straight back in. Her a loud noise then the steering was making noises when turning it left/right. Absolutely raging and will be calling the garage that did the work tomorrow morning. Could have been a lot worse if it had happened when we were touring the lake district a week ago, hate to think what would have happened had it gone on the narrow twisty roads. Nowhere to really pull over there safely too, most corners are blind bends. Even worse, Gayle and I had our granddaughter out in the car the 1st week after it was fixed. My question is, does anyone know if it is safe to drive it the 7 or 8 miles to the garage? I have no idea myself so looking for advice. Pics below show the extent of failure, and last 2 pics are of the pass side one for comparison to how it should look.
last 2 below are of the pass side for comparison
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On 9/4/2022 at 5:09 PM, AJCivic said:
Looks great Dave, looks like you might have been only a few minutes away from me
lol just noticed in your profile you're in Cumbria mate! Wish i'd knew, could have popped over to see your civic! We tried to cram in as much as we could so visited quite a few towns and villages. Off the top of my head.......Windermere, Bowness- on-Windermere, Keswick, Ambleside, Lakeland, Grassmere, Hawkshead to name a few!
On 9/4/2022 at 7:22 PM, dr_broon said:She's keeping you on your toes for sure mate.... Good that she was up for the run down to the lakes though - love it over there.
Yeah, she was ace, and Gayle and me have decided we need to visit the lakes for a wee break at least once a year. Absolutely love it and we're so chilled out there!
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Well, first long trip in Poppy and 1st since the strut top mount was replaced and oil pressure switch and service done. Took her on a weeks Holiday to the Lake District, and she drove absolutely perfect the whole trip. Top down everywhere we went as the weather was perfect. Oh, and with a mix of gentel driving/cruising and a bit of "Hooning it" she returned 406 miles to the tank of fuel for the trip. Well impressed with our wee poppy and fabulous holiday in what must be one of the most beautiful places in the UK. Oh, and Gayle and me both agree, compared to the mk1 MX5 we had Poppy is sooooooo comfy on long trips! A few pics from the trip
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So back from the garage (that was a drama in itself as they tried to over charge for work and did work we didnt ask them to do (replaced a front wheel bearing!) and still hadn't replaced the top mount that I had her booked in to get done! Idiots, have now stopped using them as had hassle getting the bill sorted and decided to take the car somewhere else to get the top mount done. The boss of the garage was ok in the end, but the mechanic that did the work was shitty about it so didn't trust him to do anything else on the car. Finally got it sorted at a local ATS garage in town.
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So, the drama's continue! Well she is a MINI after all so bound to be something needing fixed lol
Had her on a run the other day up to Scott's View which is just outside of St Boswells. She'd drove perfect all day (and returning incredible mpg!), but when we arrived at the view the oil light came on when she was idling. Went off with even the slightest touch on the accelerator. Knew Oil level was fine as had checked the day previous. Drove home gently but then another fault appeared about a mile from home! Coming down the wee back road to the village, there's a pothole that's been filled in but has left it like a bump now. It's not much but you do feel it when driving over it. Drove over it and heard this horrible noise from the front drivers side. Can only describe it as sounding like the car grounded on the road! Thought shit that aint good!. Popped the bonnet when we got home and yup, front offside strut top mount has gone! FFS! The MINIs have a big rubber bush at top of strut that has a bearing in it. Rubber has completely split (common fault) so she's now off the road again!
Now booked into the garage to have it replaced and to get the oil pressure switch replaced too (turns out the oil light means no oil pressure!). Also getting her serviced at same time as it's due. Gonna be a costly month again!
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You could try one of those one man bleed kits? They tend to be quite good although not used one myself.
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yeah was kinda hesitant as no way of knowing how bad a company are gonna be when online. Just look at the months of hassle I had over the Mini's exhaust! lol Hoping I'm not gonna need to buy any more parts for DD as money is so tight at the moment. Will be a big achievement just getting her back on the road. Bloody insurance is due in October too i think.
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Know these civics are hell to bleed mate, I struggled bleeding Ruby. Not sure if there's something else you need to do after replacing/rebuilding the master cylinder? Know that Ruby's new owner fitted uprated brakes to her (twin pot calipers etc I think and upgraded master iirc) and hasn't been able to get the brakes working since. Can't get them to bleed. Cars now been sitting for over 2 years as he's lost interest I think.
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Yeah, deffo driveability over having max power for a short time than bang lol. See, If I had my engine in bits like that on a bench, I'd be looking at all the bits with my fist in my mouth going (mumbled obviously!) "shit, what have I done!! Hope I can mind where all these bits go!!" LOL Mighty impressive skills you've got their man, and makes this such a cracking thread to follow.
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Got it from https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/57470st3800 They seem pretty good parts wise, although not sure why so many to choose from and diff prices lol. To think, we used to only be able to by one type, for one rip off price from Honda! Now we have all these to choose from lol. Only thing I will say is their delivery times are pants. that's about a week and a half for it to come.
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Sooooo, with DD off the road now for the past couple of months (MOT ran out and abs light has been on for a while) decided to get working on her.
Used the Civic5 ABS guide and found it was throwing code 15 which is RR sensor. Funnily enough, this is the one I suspected as I had her at the garage a while back to get new rear discs/pads fitted that I'd bought. I couldn't get the caliper bracket bolts out on that side when I was fitting them myself so had to get garage to do it. When we got her back, all was fine until a week later the ABS light of doom came on, so guessing they had either disturbed something/poss damaged it while getting the bolts out.
Anyhoo, moving forward I got the old one off (she fought me every step of the way! Most bolts holding the sensor cables in place either rounded off or sheared (or both!). Once off, tested it with my multimeter which showed zero resistance so indeed gubbed. ordered a new one, and got it fitted in place (Cable tied at one bit due to still needing to sort out the sheared bolts). Fired her up, bloody abs light still on! Did the whole code thing again, and now showing codes 15 and also 17 now which is RR sensor and LR sensor. Thought what the?? Tested both sensors in situ, both gave correct ohms readings. Looked at the fault codes again and it also states it could also be short/no power to sensors. Unplugged em at rear, checked with meter and 4.5 volts there. Not sure what it's meant to be, still trying to find that out. But least I know some kind of power getting there. Plugged it all back in then went and pulled the fuse for the ecu to make sure the memory is cleared.
Ignition on, abs light went off!! Started her up, it stayed off for about a minute then came back on again!! Still same two codes. Decided to pull the ecu fuse again and leave it out for 10 mins. Fuse back in, ABS light now going off as normal and staying off. Not sure if it's fixed or not as need to get her back onto her wheels and test drive. If ok, think it may have been a dodgy connection for the second fault. No light on now so that'll do for me!
Only pic I have is of comparing the old/new ABS sensor. Cost £44 delivered so well happy (even if it did take a week and a half to come). Big diff to the last one replaced (think it was £200 from Honda!)
Old one
And the old/new comparison
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Does anyone know what size (MM), what size length and what thread the wee bolts are that hold the rear ABS sensor inplace at the rear of the brake disc and along the length of the cable? Every single bolt on mine is gubbed so don't want to reuse them.
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On 8/7/2022 at 8:01 PM, Roverjoe said:
ill be posting regular updates and pictures on the forum. and i may even do a few videos too! :)
Deffo do this mate! There are hardly any resto's/how to guide videos on Youtube for these Civic's so if you can try and log your progress/how you do it on video/pics. I'm in the middle of replacing the rear ABS sensor on DD, and she's needing a hella good rub down, then rust treatment before getting her undersealed. Suspension arms etc all rusty so really looks crap! They're still solid, but need to get it done otherwise they will eventually rot. Seeing first signs of surface rust on the floor at the rear too (not bad for her age!) so going to get that all wire brushed down with the grinder before treating and then sealing it. It's a thankless task, and not one I'm sure I've got in me but I'll either need to do it or ship it out to be done.
Looking forward to following your progress on this mate!
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It could very well be due to the heat mate. Know at the moment when we have the occasional really hot day (yes, has been happening in Scotland believe it or not! lol) our wee MINI Cooper S convertible has started doing an odd thing. The doors open and close without any noise under normal temps, but when its really hot the hinges ect are creaking and cracking like crazy. I've got them all greased, but just seems to be with the metal expanding with the the heat it's causing them to creak. So could be there's maybe something in that that's causing the issue with your abs.
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Soooo, fitted the new sensor....bloody light now flashes a code for that one and also now the N/S/R sensor!! Checked and the voltage going to them is 4.6 so think they are getting the right power, but the code shows it could be a power issue. Faffed about with the wiring loom that goes from the rear to both sensors, then pulled the ecu fuse on DD to clear any errors that it might be storing even with the battery disconnected. Turned her on, boom, light off!! Took her for a test drive, light came on when we got out the garage
Continued with the test drive and light eventually went off.......only to come back on about 3 mins later. So deffo thinking it's a bad connection/broken wire on that harness. She's back in the garage and will stay there till I can find the energy to fix her. Had so much going on with the house just now and also Poppy Coopers problems that I'm taking a break from fixing them just now!