noodels Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.In practice this means:1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan.. Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 where did you find that? Looks like there might finaly be some ruling 100% telling people unless you have headlights deisgned for it retro fit hid's are a no go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesyMB6 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Its still not going to stop people using them as it takes minutes to put standard bulbs back in for mot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodels Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 £30 ON THE SPOT FINE no 30 day to get it sorted from now got it from ek9 forum as someone just got nicked was in scotland though.http://www.ek9.org/forum/interior-exter ... legal.html^^^..here...^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkesyMB6 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Intresting, but i still think people will risk it for £30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan.. Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 the only way to stop them is to make ebay ban people selling the cheap kits. There is where 90% of them will come from, cut them off at the source as it were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knight Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Intresting, but i still think people will risk it for £30x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIKH25 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Intresting, but i still think people will risk it for £30x3Look how many still use phones, much easier to get nicked on the phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetec Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 so which one is legal then? looking at getting some my-self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan.. Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Going by the only information freely avaliable which is the department of transport. Retro fit HID's (so not oem or fitted by the manufacturer/dealer at a later date) are not legal. Information avaliable here:http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/d ... lamps.htmlThe lamps must be projector style with self leveling (suspension and/or the light its self) and headlight washers. This was written in 2006. Also a majority of bulbs sold in these ebay kits are not emarked so technically even if you do fit them into the correct housing they are still not legal. At the end of the day, there is no way to legaly fit HID's to our civics. I believe the first civic to have HID's from the factory was the 8th gen (7th gen had projectors but used halogen bulbs I believe) which means the 8th gen is the only civic you can legaly fit HID's to. A lot of people will argue this saying "i've passed mot's" and "i dont get flashed" or "ive never been pulled by the cops" etc but none of it means a thing. All those are objective. An MOT tester could turn a blind eye to badly alligned lights and give out dodgy MOT's and a lot of them do. My opinion is that the only way to stop this influx of HID's fitted to older cars with reflector headlights is to ban ebay from selling the kits. I know this wont stop all but the places other than ebay cost twice as much so fewer people will buy them. It would be nice however to have a 100% solid law/ruling on HID's from VOSA and the DOT so people know for certain. One thing that is certain is if you fit a set to you M civic you will get lots of glare, blind other road users and, if roumors are correct, automatically fail your MOT in time to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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