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    British Car enthusiast but also likes Japanese stuff too, Mainly MG, Rover and Honda

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    Joe
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    17-25...Youngster!
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    Yorkshire UK

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    CIVIC VTi 5 DOOR
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    MB6

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  1. Roverjoe
    So an Update on the Lower Sills I Managed to cut them out the other day, i got all the pieces i needed to create the sections that are required. As shown i used the existing cutout to get the shape of the sill, for the Rear Extension piece and also the mid section The welding course that i was doing said that we are able to do a project in the last lesson, so i used this time to start bending the metal to the profile that i need for the lower sill. This saved me buying a Metal bender that fit the requirements for the job as i needed one that was capable of bending 1.5mm steel and the length had to be 1200mm or more for the mid section if i was to buy one like that youre looking at £1000+ for a decent one that will last you. So here are some images to show the final product really chuffed with how they have turned out, they do require an ever so slight bit of fettling to get right as the profile of the back part actually isn't straight however it comes in at an angle then straightens out when it gets to the wheel arch There are a few other little panels that i still need to fabricate such as the panel that joins the wheel arch to the sill and also the jacking point reinforcer that sits inside the sill. These will all be made in due time. I then offered it up to an existing panel to see how well it fits into place, and to be honest i was surprised how well it did! After all the Testing of fitments and other things i thought nows the time to get them protected so they dont rust. I keyed the surface and made sure that the panels were clean from dirt, rust and residues and then used some Bilt Hamber Electrox Zinc primer. Coated them twice to make sure there is a good layer of protection. Overall im chuffed with the outcome, who knows i may end up getting a Metal bending machine and start making repair panels for these cars lmao certainly ideal as a lot of the panels that are out there for these cars aren't the best.
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    You know what they say, do it properly and it wont have to be done twice, i honestly cannot wait to get cracking on with it. Lots of updates coming so it will be a nice little thread of the project from start to finish
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    Today i went to get some Sheet metal to start fabricating the inner/lower sill sections Hoping to borrow a metal bender on tuesday so i can get the Shape right, for those all wondering i got 1.5mm steel which is around the same thickness that Honda used for the inner/lower section of the sill it seems to be an easy shape to make thankfully i had a small piece of Sill from a donor car which helped me with the measurements. for those who are wondering the Sill comes in 3 segments, for the time being im making the middle section which is shown on the diagram the dimensions of the middle sill i have done them at: L: 1200mm W: 240mm Thickness 1.5mm Then there is the Front section which houses the outrigger and jacking point, this bit is way more complex as the pressing contains sections of the chassis rail and inner wheel arch this bit is usually where the rot starts at the seam where the front floor meets and is sandwiched together with three layers of metal. For this bit i will tackle it by just fabricating a piece which fits just the area i need as the rest of the outrigger seems to be perfectly fine thankfully. And Finally there is the Rear section which is the extension piece which houses the rear jacking point, and Trailing arm Mounting point. There was in fact a NOS Rover 45 panel for this online however sadly i was unable to grab it in time, that or it was an old photo that i found of an old ebay advert. But still allows me to get some sort of knowledge on how it is shaped and what panels are missing on my civic due to them rotting away. Thankfully on my Civic the backside of the Sill isnt rotten at all, just a few surface blemishes, so really i just need to cut out the bottom section of the sill and weld new in there alongside a new reinforcement piece which helps with the weight of the jack. This panel is fairly complex as it interlocks with the middle section of the sill and is then spot welded together but thankfully i wont have to mess around with that bit as the rot doesn't spread that far up the sill. Im looking forward to getting these panels made up as once that is done then i should fingers crossed have all the panels i need for welding, (thats until i probably find more rust) Needless to say its a huge project however it will be very worth while when its done.
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    Did some more welding yesterday pretty chuffed with how far ive came to say ive only had two lessons on MIG. Ive done a Fillet weld on 2mm steel and 1.5mm steel (which is around the same thickness as the inner sill of the civic) the welds aint perfect however im pretty chuffed with them to say the least. Most of the sill will be Plug welded and Stitch welded which i also had a go at on some scrap metal and it seemed to be successful!
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    Ill get some photos of it and ill pop them on here, Its the first time doing it so it wont be the best welds but i was surprised i never made any pigeon poo welds Defo try and get into it though, it will save you lots of money rather than going to a body shop. I was quoted £3000 for welding so i thought id give it a try myself and if it doesnt work then atleast i tried and ill go down a different route to get it repaired.
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    Cheers Guys, Im hoping After june i can start actually doing the welding, i have Been doing this course and ive been doing some practising, Did some MIG tonight which is what ill be using, Surprised to say for my first time i didn't do too bad managed to create some decent tacks and i also created a few lines of weld alongside creating a box! so a few more months of practising for confidence and we should be good. They also said that i can actually create the Inner sill there using the Metal Folding machine they have so i am pretty pleased to say the least! I will post some photos once the sill has been fabricated to show you!
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    Hello all once again, i did the investigation regarding the scuttle panel. And needless to say i think i caught it in the nick of time although im still uncertain what lurks beneath the windscreen. I will be infact replacing this at somepoint later on in the project as it has delaminated at the bottom so my guess is water has gotten in and possibly caused a few issues however i did a bit of poking under the scuttle panel and everything all seems solid. I even got a camera underneath just to check and no signs of rust thankfully. However there are 2 patches that are on either side where the bonnet hinges are bolted to. So as a temporary measure i have just removed the rust used some Hydrate 80 and protected it with some etch primer. I will be returning to this and doing it properly with Epoxy primer and will probably just repaint the whole inner wings and arches alongside reseaming the seal that Honda did a recall on. I am just thankful that this was not holed otherwise it would be getting the MIG out again lmao. In other news i got a spare set of Lower Control Arms and have bought some new bushings to be installed, i will be getting these sand blasted and powder coated black so its all nice and original looking. All i need to do now is remove the bush sleeves... fun times
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    Yes the guys did a great job, Really looking forward to getting them fitted!
  9. Roverjoe
    Cheers! Hopefully more Updates Next week as i tackle the Dreaded Scuttle Panel Rust. Not Holed Just yet thankfully but it will need a new windscreen.
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    Last week i picked up the new boot floor, Fun fact i got it from an R8 Rover 200 as they are the same panel. £25 not bad, So the next job was to Get all the crappy underseal off, having done this by hand which was an utter pain i did find a few pin p***k sized holes where the wheel clamp mounts to, not a massive issue as i can fill them in with weld much better than the existing civic wheel well as its pretty much knackered. On Friday last week i went to go and send off the panels i needed including a section of sill to be dipped to remove all traces of rust and to then be painted with etch primer. the bloke did a really good job and im really pleased with the outcome so the next step is to get them cut to size and fit them in the car! I will be planning on getting new Rubber Bungs for the holes alongside a new Metal Plug for the larger hole to then be properly sealed and protected so that it doesn't rot out like the usually do. More updates coming Shortly!
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    Update to those following along with the project. Ive been round places to get some quotes for welding. turns out im looking at a ball park figure of £3000 to £3750 for welding which i was expecting due to the extent of the rust. Ill be getting the final piece of the puzzle soon which is a new wheel well section as mine has blown a hole where the spare wheel clamps to. In other news, I thought the backside of the rear sills would have been rotten or full of surface corrosion. The backside underneath the car seems to have had some sort of wax based underseal sprayed on which in fact has saved the car id say. The only places the rot has crept into were parts that were exposed to the elements. Thankfully finding this has gave me a big confidence boost in the car. So when it comes to stripping the rear suspension down i will remove all of this underseal treat any surface rust i find, Epoxy or Zinc prime all underneath, Upol Gravitex (still undecided on this as its a rubber coating) then paint silver and then clear wax all of underneath to prevent it happening again.
  12. Roverjoe
    Im planning on doing a series of YT videos on my channel regarding the civic, ill be doing a complete tear down of the rear trailing arms, getting them sandblasted powder coated, new bushes etc the whole lot will be done, all the old underseal will be removed, treat any surface, either epoxy or zinc prime it depending on how it goes, and then a good coating of upol gravitex and a overcoat of silver, should be looking mint then! Cant forget the Waxing too!
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    I don't think it will be ready for October sadly. It needs a heck of a lot more work unfortunately, once the welding and painting is done etc, ill be moving onto refurbishing all the suspension and pretty much everything underneath will be getting either replaced or refurbished. ive got an estimate of probably early next year itll be done by. ill be posting regular updates and pictures on the forum. and i may even do a few videos too! :)
  14. Roverjoe
    Thought i would keep you guys updated on the Project. i am hoping to get the funds together for the welding for September. so fingers crossed she should be all solid very soon. In other news, i found the infamous red key of death lol. Remember to never use these to start the car!
  15. Roverjoe
    Aye, its a slow one at the minute with everything else im currently on with. At the minute im trying to sell off one of my other cars to fund this project, once thats sold then it'll be off in for welding and a few mechanical things. once its back in my hands then ill be on with replacing all the suspension. i already have new bolts, bushes and lower control arms. i just need to get the compensator and upper arms then the rest can be sand blasted and powder coated.
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