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Our cars are getitng older now.  In fact, although they should be supporting them until 25yrs of age, even Honda seem to be running out of  basic parts even.  As an example, front brake components.  Calipers, carriers etc.

 

My front brakes have had some TLC over the past few years to keep them legal for MOT, but every time i dismantle them, i realise what an awful state they're in, with all the rust etc.  I have taken a very relaxed look around on the net from time to time to try and see if I could source new ones (carriers especially) and it shocks me to find that this is impossible it seems.  REALLY!!!???

 

Is this REALLY the case!?

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Unfortunately it is mate. They (Honda) stopped producing parts for ours years ago, so basically any parts that were in stock have eventually ran out.

For calipers though, you're not lost. You can get reconditioned ones easy, which come with new pistons, seals etc and the casings are blasted and painted, so essentially brand new calipers. I'm about to get new (recon) front ones for DD. The carrier brackets aren't available recon, so these you need to return yourself.

 

The parts that might disappear that worry me are things like the sliding pins for them, handbrake cables etc.

And also the "Dealer only" parts.

It is pretty poor that Honda don't support owners better, but all they are interested in now is selling brand new cars.

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13 hours ago, Dave said:

The parts that might disappear that worry me are things like the sliding pins for them, handbrake cables etc.

 

I don't think the slider pins are a problem (yet).  You can find THEM all over the bay of e.  The carriers are the problem for me i think, because the slider recesses within mine are all ruined from rust.  Every time i have them in bits, those holes are worse than last time.  I've had to use so much silicone grease inside them to keep the pins movable!  Hand brake cables, yes, but tbf, i've never changed mine.  My originals have lasted all these years.  But that's not really the point, is it.  Quite frankly it's ridiculous that Honda don't support for simple expected wear and tear items.  Important items like brakes and components!  There used to be a rule, a legal rule that said car manufacturers had to be able to support vehicles up to the age of 25yrs.  What happened to that rule!?  Has it been thrown out!?

 

I have a 1981 DeLorean, and it's ridiculous that parts for it are more easily got than those for a Honda Civic.  Although to be fair again, at least in the case of the VTi, there are less of them in existence than DeLorean's, but still.

 

I take it none of the Rover/MG brake components (carrier etc) fit our MB6's?  I've bought a few things from Rimmer Bros over the years for my Civic where i can see they've used the same parts, but brakes is a bit more of an unknown.  It's not so easy to make out if any are the same or not.

 

I really dread the thought of having to go to meticulous detail to fix simple stuff on my Civic, like having to consider going to an engineering shop and asking "can you sleeve this", or "can you reproduce this?", because that's project car territory, and i already have the D' for that sort of hobby.  My Civic has ALWAYS been an every day car for me, and it makes me sad that one day, sooner than probably later by the sounds of it, the car will have to be put down because of some simple unattainable part and the lack of dedication or time required to get around that.  It's really sad, and worrying tbh.  I love my Civic, and i want to see her go on.

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Some Rover brake components do fit mate! The rear calipers are the same as ours from what ive seen. My best mate had a rover 400 saloon (2 litre) and he couldnt find a rear caliper in the breakers for it. He got a civic mb one and it was idenrical. The fronts i imagine will be the same, the not sure on them being the same for mb6/mc1 as they had bigger discs (282mm) and bigger calipers. Vti also has different stud pattern. But for 1.6, 1.5 and 1.4, i assume these will all be the same.

 

Youve got a delorian????? Jeese man! I need pics of this!!!! Totally love them! That could be also becsuse my fav film of all time is back to the future. Got a delorian myself......only its 1:12 scale model of bttf car! Lol also got a bttf " Outa time" number plate on the kitchen wall, made by myself! Looks pretty good!

 

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silicone is to thin, use a better type and refresh more often ,maybe white marine grease or a copper based type.

& MC2 Dave not MC1 angrymod.gif1

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9 hours ago, noodels said:

silicone is to thin, use a better type and refresh more often ,maybe white marine grease or a copper based type.

& MC2 Dave not MC1 angrymod.gif1

 

I'm not using silicone spray, but rather medical grade thick gluppy silicone grease.  Silicone grease is in fact what's advised to use when you're replacing the carriers etc if you read the workshop manual.  I did used to use copper grease, before i got my hands on the workshop manual, but it's definitely not as good, and i think it helps perish the little rubber concertinas which attach to the carrier and the pins to seal the grease in and the outside world, out.

 

I've often wondered what's with this MC2 v's MB6 thing?  Were the European models called MC2 and the UK model, MB6?  I've only ever referred to mine as an MB6, but i have appreciated in the past that some parts are listed as being compatible with MC2/MB6.

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12 hours ago, Dave said:

Youve got a delorian????? Jeese man! I need pics of this!!!! Totally love them! That could be also becsuse my fav film of all time is back to the future. Got a delorian myself......only its 1:12 scale model of bttf car! Lol also got a bttf " Outa time" number plate on the kitchen wall, made by myself! Looks pretty good!

 

 

"DeLorean", yes.  I've had it for sometime.  Much like you have a name for your Civic, my D's name is "LEX".  I don't have a name for my Civic (Or my BMW for that matter either).

 

Here's a couple of pictures of the D' and the Civic together back in 2009.  I've no updated pictures of the two together since these were taken in Edinburgh.  Both cars have been moved down to Rugby since.

 

13-09-09_1.jpg

13-09-09_2.jpg

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Both look stunning mate! My civic typeS was called "Lexy" lol

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You need to get the DeLorean and the civic or our sister site future classic cars mate. Deffo not got a DeLorean in the club yet!!!! Would love to see it over there!

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16 hours ago, Dave said:

You need to get the DeLorean and the civic or our sister site future classic cars mate. Deffo not got a DeLorean in the club yet!!!! Would love to see it over there!

 

I'd like to but i don't know what your sister site is?  I have three future classics (arguably), the third being an E46 M3 Individual.

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13 hours ago, dmrichards said:

the DeLorean is cool but give me the civic over it :lol:

 

...or in my case, have both ;-)

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It's a shame, because although i love all three of my cars, and the fact that the Civic is actually the rarest of the three beasties, I can see the Civic going if it comes to being impossible to support and maintain it without parts.  As i say, without parts, and having to rely on old-skool engineering and machine shops instead, for the fabrication and refurbishment of parts, this is getting firmly into the project specialist areas of classic car ownership, and without the inherent value or associated respect from wider audiences, our cars will be put under the same column as the Talbot Solara's of the world, and only a true devotee will prosper in keeping them running, but with big costs attached.  I see that there are more of my car SORN'd than on the road these days.  It would be interesting to know the condition of these SORn'd vehicles, as keeping them under lock and key and away from the public eye, even in mint condition, is not promoting the marque well for 3rd party manufacturers to take an interest in making parts for them.  If there's no customers, then there's no market, and no market means no profit to be had.  If any of these cars makes it out into the daylight again, mint or not, they are just delaying the inevitable situation those of us who use our cars regularly, are finding themselves in NOW.  I'm sorry to admit it, as much as the old girl is a firm part of my existence, if it came down to choosing which to let go of first, the M3 and the D' would remain with me.  Neither of those are rotting away already and they're both far better supported for replacement parts.  Sad, i know.  As a custodian for the MB6 VTi brand, and a long term owner of the marque, it makes me sad to think that one day, she'll have to be let go of due to nobody really caring.  Anyway, until that day, i'll do my best and continue on as I've been doing for as long as I can hold out.

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7 hours ago, Rissy said:

 

I'd like to but i don't know what your sister site is?  I have three future classics (arguably), the third being an E46 M3 Individual.

Lol it's the banner at the bottom of Civic5 forum main page mate!

https://futureclassiccars.uk/

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Mc2 is an Aerodeck Vti estate car,with Mb6 engine running gear ect

Place I used to work buried some of them DeLoreans some 30yrs ago :-(

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1 hour ago, noodels said:

Place I used to work buried some of them DeLoreans some 30yrs ago :-(

 

Ah yes, i think that would have been either the Wooler Hodec cast off's or the Lotus cast off's.  I think the latter.  I'm sure it was just the body tubs of what were known as the "green cars" from memory.  Those were cars which had been born and used purely for testing and prototyping purposes.  Seems like a running trend for the DeLorean history, things being thrown back to nature; as the stainless body panel dies used during manufacture are sitting at the bottom of the Irish sea after being used as fishing net weights.  Criminal!

 

Here's one of the green "mule" cars from google pictures:

 

https://goo.gl/images/C3dfHe

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1 hour ago, Rissy said:

 

Ah yes, i think that would have been either the Wooler Hodec cast off's or the Lotus cast off's.  I think the latter.  I'm sure it was just the body tubs of what were known as the "green cars" from memory.  Those were cars which had been born and used purely for testing and prototyping purposes.  Seems like a running trend for the DeLorean history, things being thrown back to nature; as the stainless body panel dies used during manufacture are sitting at the bottom of the Irish sea after being used as fishing net weights.  Criminal!

 

Here's one of the green "mule" cars from google pictures:

 

https://goo.gl/images/C3dfHe

See! I love learning new stuff about cars, never knew about the green cars etc. Find it fascinating!

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Yes the latter,

link shows them outside the engineering department. 

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On 8/4/2018 at 4:29 PM, noodels said:

Yes the latter,

link shows them outside the engineering department. 

 

So you used to work at Lotus in Hethel (would make sense with your given location i guess).  We took took the D's to lotus in 2015.  I got to drive Lex around their text track etc.  It was great fun.

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Yes a long time ago in the service garage,

rebuild & chassis replacement ect engine rebuild &lots  Elan M100 water leaks!!

lots of people around my area have worked there 

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