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2 hours ago, dr_broon said:

Looks much cleaner mate

Thanks mate, it definitely is cleaner now, I do wish something more exciting was in that bay haha, the D14 ain't cutting it.

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Oh yeah, I can definitely relate to that.

 

Sadly, even D16 swaps have gotten pricier and pricier as time went on. At least where I'm located, ymmv.

When I got my Civic a complete B18 swap kit was around 2000€. Now you can count yourself lucky if you even find one to begin with. And then it's never below 4k.

 

Got a spare Z6 a few years ago to pull apart and build with forged internals. In those few years it literally appreciated by 100%.

Just crazy. Hondas used to be those cheap, easy to get into modding platforms, but I guess no car is safe from ... 'collectors'.

 

But welcome to the team! :)

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4 hours ago, SirPaperbag said:

Oh yeah, I can definitely relate to that.

 

Sadly, even D16 swaps have gotten pricier and pricier as time went on. At least where I'm located, ymmv.

When I got my Civic a complete B18 swap kit was around 2000€. Now you can count yourself lucky if you even find one to begin with. And then it's never below 4k.

 

Got a spare Z6 a few years ago to pull apart and build with forged internals. In those few years it literally appreciated by 100%.

Just crazy. Hondas used to be those cheap, easy to get into modding platforms, but I guess no car is safe from ... 'collectors'.

 

But welcome to the team! :)

Yeah, it suuuuuucks, my brother swapped his MB1 with a Z6 4 years ago, we bought the entire car with the engine for 500€ and sold the car for 600€, so a free Z6, I'm thinking of just buying a cheap K series car and swapping the deck with a K20 or K24, I would love to B swap it but it's too expensive. I'd rather just buy an MB6 or MC2 at that point.

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Oh, funny you should say that.

Right now someone on this forum is also doing a K-Swap, maybe you could shoot them a PM if you've got some specific questions about that.

 

What I know about K-swaps (thought about doing it a few years ago) is that the engine swap kit is actually the cheapest part of the procedure. xD

What adds up insanely fast are all the extra bits you have to get to make it all fit - shifters, cables, mounting kits, brackets, all that jazz.

 

You could spend the same amount of money you paid for the whole swap kit - just for a nice exhaust header.

So if you're serious about swapping your engine, maybe reconsider going for an (albeit overpriced) D16 instead of a K20/K24. If 50% more power than stock isn't enough you could still go for forced induction to easily reach 200hp.

 

I personally am more than happy with my 'stock' D16Z9 (full bolt-ons though), but I'm also not that interested in sheer power and acceleration. Got my Kawasaki for that.

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On 3/5/2026 at 6:02 PM, SirPaperbag said:

Oh, funny you should say that.

Right now someone on this forum is also doing a K-Swap, maybe you could shoot them a PM if you've got some specific questions about that.

 

What I know about K-swaps (thought about doing it a few years ago) is that the engine swap kit is actually the cheapest part of the procedure. xD

What adds up insanely fast are all the extra bits you have to get to make it all fit - shifters, cables, mounting kits, brackets, all that jazz.

 

You could spend the same amount of money you paid for the whole swap kit - just for a nice exhaust header.

So if you're serious about swapping your engine, maybe reconsider going for an (albeit overpriced) D16 instead of a K20/K24. If 50% more power than stock isn't enough you could still go for forced induction to easily reach 200hp.

 

I personally am more than happy with my 'stock' D16Z9 (full bolt-ons though), but I'm also not that interested in sheer power and acceleration. Got my Kawasaki for that.

Oh, I know, I just want a bit more power than the 150 you could pull out of a D series, I want to do the swap on my own fully also.

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It's probably cheaper to just buy a Civic with the engine you want already in - maybe you could get a right hand drive one form the UK that's rusty? Theses kind of cars tend to be cheaper over here ... MBs haven't gone up in price much (yet!) like EG/EKs have in recent years. Obviously you'd have to get it back to where you are but depends how desperate you are!

 

You are absolutely right on the K-swap front - especially if you use quality parts not ebay copied junk. I spent £750 on my shell, £700 on an engine, and £250 on a gearbox, but I would say the parts to do the engine conversion properly are probably 5x that, especially when you add in a lot of items that get done "whilst you're in there" e.g. new clutch/lightened flywheel, bigger injectors, different intake manifold... etc. etc.

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