Thanks chaps Very pleased with the car, the seats are really comfortable, to me they seem more comfy than the leather that was in my MB4 although I haven't had a Civic for a couple of years, This was what I had earlier in the year, I loved it Accord Exec It had to go though as it was seriously thirsty, as I later found out 6th gens, especially the 2 litre are not the best for economy, if I'd opted for a 1.8 I probably would have still had it, not helped by fitting an induction kit on and always been in vtec :/