Oh yeah also bought OEM type R dual valve springs and Retainers for £50 ready for when I get some DC2 cam's and light weight cam gears next year my second heads getting ported and polished with 3 x valve seats cut in........ my goal is around 200bhp from the c4 without a turbo then after that thinking might be turbo time but not until next summer. I am back in full on Honda mode loving the C4 again. long story short my grandma died left me a few squids and I thought I have spent thousands on my house already doing it up I want to enjoy my life like she wanted me to so I booked a holiday to Malta ( my best mate lives there) and take the family, bought all the family a nice gift each 2 x kids boy 6 girl 7 and missus 30 like me and then went on this MB6 Rampage. also for last few months I have toyed with getting a DC2 but you know what all I have seen are ragged to shizzle so I thought no I have a rare VTI-S make that as good or as good as I can. so I am. I will upload pics of how it stands now, my missus has had it for the last year so its looking neglected but nothing I cant fix, might need some valeting tips guys and how to polish also never done it so clueless...... I bought the wifey a 4.0 straight six Jeep grand Cherokee that I have had LPG and put £400 set of goodyears on and is now hers so she stays away from my Honda................