Dave

The good old Honda equipment levels in models can be hit or miss. All depends on what the first owner optioned in a lot of cases. My pre facelift MA8 1.4i was the base model, but had been optioned with the electric pack, alloys and mica metallic paint. So basic Civic but had electric mirrors (also heated, with separate switch for this), electric tilt/slide glass sunroof, electric front windows (wind up rears). The mirrors, even though fully electric, were plain black plastic housings, not colour coded. Bumpers were only half colour coded (which looked nuts!). Bloody brilliant wee car though, never ever went wrong in the 8 years or so we owned it.

Wonder what fitment the FN1/FN2 wheel is (other than FN1/FN2 lol ) Loved that wheel in my TypeS and TypeR, would love to see that in an MB/MC! Wonder if it could be fitted and if the radio volume buttons could be wired up?

Deffo the DC2/EG boss kits for our civics as I have the DC2 steering wheel fitted to DD, and it was straight forward plug/play. I had issues getting a boss previously for my MA8 civic, bought the eg/dc2 one wich would go on, but the srs clock spool or whatever they call it got in the way and prevented it from fitting. Found out from supplier at the time (Funkypower.co.uk) that there was also an airbag kit version, but they didnt have it in stock so I never did get that wheel fitted.

Yes both the front and the rear mgzs roll bars are thicker than mb6/mc2 has so be a good idea to fit both front and rear if you can get them.

I would think the holes should already be threaded mate. Was the left side one threaded when you got it? These should just be bolt and play, shouldn't have to thread them

Loving the new photos,she looks amazing mate. Sweet aerodeck that!

this is sounding good mate!

Regarding the seatbelt bolt. It might need a lot of heat on it to free it up. By the sounds of it, its on route to shear. Not good hearing that crackly rusty sound though, always freaks me out! Id get your welder chap to really give that area a good check to see whats all needed.

They look ok, only thing that kinda gets me in the description is where it says for models "EU" then mb/mc. The 5 door EP style Civic was I think designated the model code "EU" , so not sure if that stands for Europe in this case or if it's for the EU Civics aswell. There sills will almost certainly be different to ours. The year tallys with ours though. For £20 mate you really can't go wrong and if that is the correct ones, let us know. I'll be ordering a pair up (DD's Sills are fine) as I want to start stocking up on what parts we can still get for them for the future.

Yeah Rich and the guys at Dynodaze know their stuff. Rich especially so when it comes to civic M's, his own one was a stunner as was his brother Keiths.

Kudos to you for taking her on the track in the wet mate, I panic on a track in the dry in case someone crashes into me! Looking forward to the next part of the build, and whoever buys her current heart will be getting one hell of a motor!

As Simon says, be great to see your Aerodeck bud. MGZS anti-roll bars are a common choice too as they are thicker than ours

Yeah, maybe we should have been buying up the rusty ones and stripping them so we have a stock of spares a few years back when they were going for buttons. I didn't have the time nor space back then, although probably got enough space now although think Gayle would have a fit if i was to buy in cars and strip em in the garden. Would like to get a hold of some spares though, maybe i'll see if its possible to try and do something with the carport next to the garage. It needs to come down anyways and I was gonna build a new one, maybe I'll see if i can store some spares in that.

@dr_broon Not really sure tbh mate. Because our cars have a very small fan base, manufacturers will see that as a reason for not doing it. For the amount of tooling etc that goes into making parts fit a car the cost would outweigh what they would make back. This is even more so for body panels as the tooling for that is probably no longer available. Sure, as time goes on and these do get fully recognized as modern classics (which they should be by now), we might see some parts being re-manufactured, but again, with the limited market, those parts are gonna be pretty expensive. We did have MeisterR making coilover susupension specific to our Civic M's, but we had more fans interested in buying them a while back. They don't even offer group buy discounts now, which puts me right off them as having them as traders they were supposed to offer some discount to members, but they won't. Hence the traders section has been removed from the forum. If traders/companies want to advertise on here, they need to offer our members something in return. We won't let them use our site for advertising free of charge, has to be something in it for the members. On the MeisterRs, I suppose there wasn't much tooling involved as they had a ready made product. All they had to do was make the top mounts and add a set of springs that were rated for our cars and job done. No point contacting Honda again as we've had nada from them in the past, and they wont want to be seen supporting "polluting cars" when they are trying to move forward on the EV front. Expressed panels, we could see if they would start remaking pattern panels (although we all know how pattern panels fit!) but again will depend on tooling. Tough times for our civics indeed, but if anyone has any suggestions on companies they think might be interested in helping us out please let us know. (wish I'd bought those new old stock complete rear side panels/arches (included the area around rear side window all the way up to the roof!) for the aerodecks. There were loads of them on ebay for like £120 a panel...........would love to have a stock of those sitting waiting i can tell you!

Perfect, ta mate! Just what I'm looking for!

A quick one, are the switches on the doors for the interior lights on our civics negative switch signal or positive switch signal? Can't find my good old haynes book of bollocks for the wiring diagram

Deffo up for that mate!! Be great to see you guys again!

Yes, even the youngest Civic M's are 20 years old now, so all are getting on a bit. It's heartbreaking when you find the rust, but (especially recently) seeing them being repaired in the forum like they have been recently and seeing the rust cut out and replaced by shiney new metal is inspiring. To think, when we started Civic5, these cars were the butt of the honda communities jokes, and not many folk were interested in them. Now they're being lovingly restored as they reach modern classic status. Good luck with the welding mate, another one i'm looking forward to watching being brought back to life.

Loving all these b18'd Mb's and Mc's getting restored on civic5 lately, it's epic!! Great to see your deck getting the resto treatment it deserves mate, will be well worth it! Keeps us posted!! Looking forward to seeing her come together!

yeah, looks like inner sill at that area is gone too, possibly needing fabricating as I doubt the inners will be available. It's a tough call tbh, cos if the rest of the car is sound then would be a shame to see her go if the welding can be done cost effectively.

Yeah, thought about them sunroof drains maybe being blocked, but thought that would usually make the headlining wet at the front corner? Gayle and I tested it tonight with a watering can. Started at the scuttle area, and worked our way slowly bit by bit up the A pillar. Then went along top of windscreen. Next went along the rain rail at front next to roof rails. Nada, not a thing! Tried around the drivers door to check the seals, nope not there. We've now got no idea where its getting in. Floor is dry today, but carpet is still pulled backa s its still wet (Have left her running with the hot air on full whack to the floor to try and get that proplery dried out. We're thinking now that it may have got in some of the areas we checked when i was washing her.....maybe the force (it isnt that powerful tbh) of the hose was enough to get the water past whatever bit of seal is failing?

I like the side stripes and thought they were standard/optional from the factory? Deffo go for them mate, they look so much nicer with them in my opinion, and the car being white it will carry them off perfectly.

Sooo, it finally happened! DD has sprung a leak! Went out and washed her today as she was filthy, and then jumped in to hear Squelching. Thought this can't be good. Drivers side footwell completely soaking, carpet and mats dripping wet. Gutted! I removed all the trim and got the carpets pulled back and the drain bung removed. Was one hell of a puddle under the carpet. Had to wring the carpet/underlay out to get the water out, was absolutley soaking. Fired her up, heaters of full whack to the floor and also got my heat gun in to get her dried out. Took ages but shes near enough dry now. Got no idea where its getting in though Gayle and me are gonna investigate further once shes home, see if we can pin point it. I'm almost certain it'll be the windscreen around the bulkhead, the bonding eventually breaks down on them and stops forming a seal. Will need to strip out all the scuttle panel trim and wipers etc to get a good look. Don't think its the usual place at the top of the windscreen these normally go at as the roof lining is all nice and dry. The good news is the floor under the carpets is like brand new, still got factory still in her original blue so hopefully can nip this in the bud before it causes any damage. Did notice the past week whilst she was parked up that the windows were all steamed up so this is obviously the cause. Downside is I dont yet have a garage that I can work in and we're getting really crap weather here so not looking forward to working on her out doors

Worrying times, but if it's just the sills then you should be ok. I'm not sure where the mgzs/Rover 400/45 owners get them from, think I've geard them mention Rimmer Brothers? Could be wrong. Might be worth signing up to https://www.mg-rover.org/forums/mg-zs-rover-45-400.102/MG and pop a question up see if they know. Be prepared for the usual ridicule though (why not buy a Rover cos they're better etc) although some of the members are ok. I was banned from it many many moons ago because I run the site for the Civic version of the car! They took umbridge when I pointed out the that the "Rover Aerodecks" of which there were originally 2, but now theres 3 (3rd which appeared years after rover went out of production so obviously a member redressed civic aerodeck!) that there were never any rover decks. It's a long story but rover never put them into production but a lot of members there swear blind they did, hence I got banned! lol Might sign back up as I'm sure moods and opinions have mellowed now both cars are into modern classic territory.

That doesn't sound good mate. I'd be inclined to give the whole car a good digging over just in case there's more rust elsewhere too. Simon (Dr Broon) had welding done to his aerodeck, and then when he took it to another garage, the catalog of horrors found meant it wasn't viable to get any more welding done, hence he decided to reshell the car with a rust free shell. Hopefully you won't find the same horrors and its just contained to the sills, but worth keeping the above in mind mate.